{ "id": 58142, "date": "2026-09-15T19:01:43", "date_gmt": "2026-09-15T17:01:43", "guid": { "rendered": "https:\/\/socialgoodaccelerator.eu\/?p=58142" }, "modified": "2026-09-15T19:01:56", "modified_gmt": "2026-09-15T17:01:56", "slug": "observatoire-de-less-numerique-interview-de-nastasia-fouret-data-architect", "status": "publish", "type": "post", "link": "https:\/\/socialgoodaccelerator.eu\/en_gb\/2026\/09\/15\/observatoire-de-less-numerique-interview-de-nastasia-fouret-data-architect\/", "title": { "rendered": "Observatoire de l’ESS num\u00e9rique : interview de Nastasia Fouret, Data Architect" }, "content": { "rendered": "[et_pb_section fb_built=”1″ _builder_version=”4.16″ da_disable_devices=”off|off|off” global_colors_info=”{}” da_is_popup=”off” da_exit_intent=”off” da_has_close=”on” da_alt_close=”off” da_dark_close=”off” da_not_modal=”on” da_is_singular=”off” da_with_loader=”off” da_has_shadow=”on”][et_pb_row _builder_version=”4.27.6″ _module_preset=”default” global_colors_info=”{}”][et_pb_column type=”4_4″ _builder_version=”4.27.6″ _module_preset=”default” global_colors_info=”{}”][et_pb_text _builder_version=”4.27.8″ _module_preset=”default” text_font=”||on||||||” text_text_color=”gcid-body-color” global_colors_info=”{%22gcid-body-color%22:%91%22text_text_color%22%93}”]

Le Social Good Accelerator<\/strong><\/a> a eu le plaisir d’interviewer Nastasia Fouret<\/strong>, fondatrice et consultante cheffe de projets Data\/IA de Dot&Cie, et architecte data sur le projet Observatoire de l’ESS num\u00e9rique<\/strong><\/a> d\u00e9velopp\u00e9 par SOGA. Cette interview revient sur la premi\u00e8re phase du projet, \u00e0 savoir l’agr\u00e9gation des donn\u00e9es, sur ses enjeux, ses avanc\u00e9es ainsi que sur la deuxi\u00e8me phase qui s’annonce. Nastasia nous partage \u00e9galement son exp\u00e9rience en tant que b\u00e9n\u00e9vole pour SOGA, depuis fin janvier 2026 via<\/em> Data for Good<\/a>.<\/p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=”4.27.6″ _module_preset=”default” global_colors_info=”{}”][et_pb_column type=”4_4″ _builder_version=”4.27.6″ _module_preset=”default” global_colors_info=”{}”][et_pb_heading title=”Peux-tu te pr\u00e9senter et nous dire ce que tu fais ?” _builder_version=”4.27.8″ _module_preset=”default” title_level=”h2″ global_colors_info=”{}”][\/et_pb_heading][et_pb_text _builder_version=”4.27.8″ _module_preset=”default” text_font=”||||||||” text_text_color=”gcid-body-color” global_colors_info=”{%22gcid-body-color%22:%91%22text_text_color%22%93}”]

Je suis Nastasia Fouret, j’interviens aupr\u00e8s de clients sur des probl\u00e9matiques data (gestion, datas d’infrastructures, gestion des stocks, des achats, etc.) ; en somme, tout ce qui permet \u00e0 une entreprise de fonctionner. Mon r\u00f4le est de permettre leur utilisation et leur mise en visibilit\u00e9 pour que la structure puisse piloter son activit\u00e9.<\/p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=”4.27.6″ _module_preset=”default” global_colors_info=”{}”][et_pb_column type=”4_4″ _builder_version=”4.27.6″ _module_preset=”default” global_colors_info=”{}”][et_pb_heading title=”En quoi consiste le projet d’Observatoire ?” _builder_version=”4.27.6″ _module_preset=”default” title_level=”h2″ global_colors_info=”{}”][\/et_pb_heading][et_pb_text _builder_version=”4.27.6″ _module_preset=”default” text_font=”||||||||” text_text_color=”gcid-body-color” global_colors_info=”{%22gcid-body-color%22:%91%22text_text_color%22%93}”]

Le projet d’Observatoire de l’ESS num\u00e9rique c’est un projet qui a pour objectif de mettre en visibilit\u00e9 les structures de l’ESS num\u00e9rique et surtout de leur permettre de se reconna\u00eetre comme tel. C’est en somme un projet d’autod\u00e9termination qui a pour but d’aider les structures \u00e0 se dire “Oui, je suis de l’ESS num\u00e9rique” ou “Non, je ne suis pas de l’ESS num\u00e9rique”.\u00a0<\/p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=”4.27.6″ _module_preset=”default” global_colors_info=”{}”][et_pb_column type=”4_4″ _builder_version=”4.27.6″ _module_preset=”default” global_colors_info=”{}”][et_pb_heading title=”Quel est ton r\u00f4le dans le projet d’Observatoire de l’ESS num\u00e9rique ?” _builder_version=”4.27.8″ _module_preset=”default” title_level=”h2″ global_colors_info=”{}”][\/et_pb_heading][et_pb_text _builder_version=”4.27.8″ _module_preset=”default” text_font=”||||||||” text_text_color=”gcid-body-color” global_colors_info=”{%22gcid-body-color%22:%91%22text_text_color%22%93}”]

J’ai commenc\u00e9 \u00e0 travailler avec SOGA fin janvier via <\/em>Data for good. Je devais intervenir en tant que data architect\u00a0<\/em>sur le projet de cr\u00e9ation de l’Observatoire. Je n’\u00e9tais pas toute seule, il y avait Augustin de Chevigny, qui intervenait dans le cadre de ses \u00e9tudes \u00e0 Centrale Lille. En amont, et avec d’autres \u00e9tudiants, il a mis en place les bases : l’identification des actrices et acteurs du secteur de l’ESS, leur r\u00e9partition dans 8 familles de l’ESS num\u00e9rique<\/a><\/strong>, etc. Et ce que j’ai fait, c’est reprendre toutes les r\u00e8gles de gestion qu’il avait appliqu\u00e9 et les “industrialiser” dans un process un peu data pour pouvoir reproduire cette analyse r\u00e9guli\u00e8rement plut\u00f4t que ce soit une analyse “one shot” et que de ce fait, on se retrouve avec un jeu de donn\u00e9es qui ne se maintient pas dans le temps.<\/p>\n

J’ai donc r\u00e9fl\u00e9chi \u00e0 introduire des r\u00e8gles de gouvernance et d’architecture. L’id\u00e9e \u00e9tant d’essayer de trouver un juste milieu entre “il faut utiliser le plus d’outils open source<\/em>, le plus de donn\u00e9es qu’on met en forme nous-m\u00eames” et “il faut aller vite, avoir des donn\u00e9es de qualit\u00e9” m\u00eame si ce n’est pas toujours facile de les avoir. L’enjeu derri\u00e8re d’avoir des donn\u00e9es mises en forme par nos propres moyens, c’est que l’on puisse mieux les tracker, qu’on soit en mesure de se dire “Ok, ces donn\u00e9es proviennent de l\u00e0, elles ont cette validit\u00e9” ; on sait d’o\u00f9 elles viennent et on sait comment les obtenir \u00e0 nouveau en cas de besoin.<\/p>\n

Un autre aspect de mon travail c’est de rassembler des donn\u00e9es, donc de solliciter les personnes qui seraient potentiellement de l’ESS num\u00e9rique et de les faire se rassembler autour d’une table, de d\u00e9terminer si oui ou non elles cochent les cases. Et pour \u00e7a il faut aussi poser le cadre : qu’est-ce qu’une structure num\u00e9rique ? Quelles sont les diff\u00e9rences ? Comment la notion m\u00eame de num\u00e9rique \u00e9volue ? Est-ce qu’on se reconna\u00eet dedans ou pas ? etc. Mon r\u00f4le, c’est vraiment de cr\u00e9er cette impulsion en termes de source de donn\u00e9es et de structure qui fera en sorte que, demain, les donn\u00e9es pourront vivre, refl\u00e9ter et s’alimenter par rapport \u00e0 la communaut\u00e9 num\u00e9rique que l’Observatoire est en train de cr\u00e9er.\u00a0<\/p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=”4.27.6″ _module_preset=”default” global_colors_info=”{}”][et_pb_column type=”4_4″ _builder_version=”4.27.6″ _module_preset=”default” global_colors_info=”{}”][et_pb_heading title=”Et en tant que b\u00e9n\u00e9vole, comment vis-tu ton exp\u00e9rience avec SOGA ?” _builder_version=”4.27.6″ _module_preset=”default” title_level=”h2″ global_colors_info=”{}”][\/et_pb_heading][et_pb_text _builder_version=”4.27.6″ _module_preset=”default” text_font=”||||||||” text_text_color=”gcid-body-color” global_colors_info=”{%22gcid-body-color%22:%91%22text_text_color%22%93}”]

Au d\u00e9part, ce n’\u00e9tait pas un engagement tr\u00e8s fort pour moi. Ma vision \u00e9tait plut\u00f4t orient\u00e9e accompagnement d’un projet, mais au final j’ai trouv\u00e9 le projet int\u00e9ressant. Les personnes avec qui j’interagissais \u00e9taient vraiment agr\u00e9ables, et il se trouvait que j’avais un peu de temps \u00e0 ce moment-l\u00e0. Donc j’ai propos\u00e9 \u00e0 Jeanne de continuer de travailler sur le projet parce que \u00e7a changeait de ce que je faisais d’habitude : l\u00e0, je n’avais pas les donn\u00e9es sources. Je travaille souvent sur des donn\u00e9es de gestion par exemple, qui sont disponibles parce que c’est l’entreprise qui les cr\u00e9e elle-m\u00eame, donc je n’ai pas besoin d’aller les chercher, juste besoin de v\u00e9rifier qu’elles sont bien aliment\u00e9es. Et quand elles ne le sont pas, je vais voir le responsable de l’\u00e9quipe. En fait, tu ne g\u00e8res pas du tout le manque de donn\u00e9es de la m\u00eame mani\u00e8re au sein d’un \u00e9cosyst\u00e8me et dans le cadre de donn\u00e9es libres.<\/p>\n

Donc \u00e7a, \u00e7a \u00e9t\u00e9 la premi\u00e8re surprise m\u00e9tier, je ne m’attendais pas \u00e0 cette logique. Ensuite, j’ai ador\u00e9 travailler avec Jeanne et Clarisse ! \u00c7a m’a fait du bien. Pour moi, l’humain est plus important que le projet en lui-m\u00eame. Que ce soit l’\u00e9quipe de SOGA ou les personnes du Comit\u00e9, j’aime leur fa\u00e7on de travailler qui est tr\u00e8s diff\u00e9rente de ce que je connais en entreprise. Aussi, c’est une de mes premi\u00e8res exp\u00e9riences b\u00e9n\u00e9voles aussi long terme dans mon domaine, donc \u00e7a me donne l’impression d’\u00eatre utile. En revanche, c’est aussi tr\u00e8s challengeant de composer entre mon activit\u00e9, ma vie perso et le b\u00e9n\u00e9volat, mais Jeanne est tr\u00e8s compr\u00e9hensive donc c’est agr\u00e9able. Le tout c’est de fonctionner par priorit\u00e9s. Il peut y avoir des moments o\u00f9 je ne peux pas me consacrer au b\u00e9n\u00e9volat, mais je sais que ce n’est pas grave et je reprends apr\u00e8s. Ce qui est plus difficile c’est d’avoir des rituels quand on a un planning qui change toutes les semaines, mais avec Clarisse on commence \u00e0 trouver une routine en programmant une r\u00e9union syst\u00e9matique et c’est ce qui fonctionne le mieux.<\/p>\n

<\/p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=”4.27.6″ _module_preset=”default” global_colors_info=”{}”][et_pb_column type=”4_4″ _builder_version=”4.27.6″ _module_preset=”default” global_colors_info=”{}”][et_pb_heading title=”Tu vas bient\u00f4t aborder la phase 2 du projet. Qu’as-tu pr\u00e9vu dans ces prochains mois ? Quels seront vos besoins pour la mener \u00e0 bien ?” _builder_version=”4.27.6″ _module_preset=”default” title_level=”h2″ global_colors_info=”{}”][\/et_pb_heading][et_pb_text _builder_version=”4.27.6″ _module_preset=”default” text_font=”||||||||” text_text_color=”gcid-body-color” global_colors_info=”{%22gcid-body-color%22:%91%22text_text_color%22%93}”]

Avant d’entamer la phase 2, il faut d\u00e9j\u00e0 terminer la phase 1 et avoir le socle de donn\u00e9es pr\u00eat \u00e0 \u00eatre d\u00e9ploy\u00e9. Je pense qu’au fur et \u00e0 mesure, on aura moins besoin de moi en termes de d\u00e9veloppement, donc ce sera plus une question d’animation : pr\u00e9senter les donn\u00e9es, mettre \u00e0 disposition les outils, etc. D’ailleurs, ce n’est pas forc\u00e9ment moi qui vais m’en occuper, ce sera plus Jeanne et Clarisse. Mon objectif c’est vraiment de terminer la phase 1 et la livrer.\u00a0<\/p>\n

En termes de besoins, en ce qui me concerne, ce sera surtout de la maintenance, dans la mesure o\u00f9 ce seront les utilisateurs et les responsables de r\u00e9seaux qui fourniront les donn\u00e9es et ce sera \u00e0 nous de d\u00e9terminer ce qu’on en fait. Pour permettre cette maintenance et faire en sorte que d’autres personnes puissent s’en saisir, j’ai tout d\u00e9velopp\u00e9 en Python. C’est un langage que les d\u00e9veloppeurs, m\u00eame sans \u00eatre sp\u00e9cialistes data, ma\u00eetrisent et peuvent mettre \u00e0 jour, et tout mis sur GitHub.<\/p>\n

<\/p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=”4.27.6″ _module_preset=”default” global_colors_info=”{}”][et_pb_column type=”4_4″ _builder_version=”4.27.6″ _module_preset=”default” global_colors_info=”{}”][et_pb_heading title=”Qu’avez-vous pr\u00e9vu entre les deux phases ? Est-ce qu’il y aura des \u00e9v\u00e9nements pour pr\u00e9senter les avancements du projet ?” _builder_version=”4.27.6″ _module_preset=”default” title_level=”h2″ global_colors_info=”{}”][\/et_pb_heading][et_pb_text _builder_version=”4.27.6″ _module_preset=”default” text_font=”||||||||” text_text_color=”gcid-body-color” global_colors_info=”{%22gcid-body-color%22:%91%22text_text_color%22%93}”]

Apr\u00e8s \u00e7a, pour la partie data, on voudrait organiser un datathon et un meet-up<\/em> sur Label Studio qui est un outil open source<\/em> de labellisation des donn\u00e9es. \u00c7a se pr\u00e9sente sous forme d’application web, donc on a acc\u00e8s aux donn\u00e9es, on peut les filtrer, chercher celles qu’on veut, contr\u00f4ler si elles sont bien dedans, etc. Dans notre cas, avec Jeanne, on a con\u00e7u un questionnaire qui permettra de d\u00e9terminer si les donn\u00e9es sont bien qualifi\u00e9es, s’il faut les modifier, \u00e0 quelle cat\u00e9gorie de l’ESS telle structure appartient, s’il manque des cat\u00e9gories ESS, pourquoi les gens d\u00e9cident de prendre cette raison, etc. Ainsi, on pourra enrichir les donn\u00e9es et les labelliser.<\/p>\n

Pour le meet-up<\/em> Label Studio, nous allons rassembler principalement les personnes du comit\u00e9 data avec qui nous travaillons. L’objectif sera de savoir ce qui pour eux est bon et ce sur quoi nous devrons retravailler, est-ce que \u00e7a remplit bien l’objectif du projet, etc. Si tout est OK avec quelques retours, on fera le n\u00e9cessaire pour y r\u00e9pondre, et si c’est pas OK on posera plein de questions et on leur donnera potentiellement des acc\u00e8s au r\u00e9seau.<\/p>\n

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J’ai bien aim\u00e9 cette exp\u00e9rience, c’est challengeant en termes d’investissement et \u00e7a change de ce que je fais au quotidien. L\u00e0, je vais pr\u00e9senter ce que j’ai fait \u00e0 des personnes techniques, ce qui est tr\u00e8s diff\u00e9rent de mon r\u00f4le de consultante dans une entreprise data o\u00f9 j’aide les gens \u00e0 g\u00e9rer leurs donn\u00e9es. Contrairement \u00e0 ce projet o\u00f9 je dois partir de donn\u00e9es ext\u00e9rieures pour les mettre dans l’entreprise et les mettre \u00e0 disposition. \u00c7a m’a permis de me poser plein de questions d’architecture de donn\u00e9es, de tester Claude Code, etc.\u00a0<\/p>\n

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Le Social Good Accelerator a eu le plaisir d’interviewer Nastasia Fouret, fondatrice et consultante cheffe de projets Data\/IA de Dot&Cie, et architecte data sur le projet Observatoire de l’ESS num\u00e9rique […]<\/p>", "protected": false }, "author": 1, "featured_media": 57553, "comment_status": "closed", "ping_status": "closed", "sticky": false, "template": "", "format": "standard", "meta": { "_et_pb_use_builder": "on", "_et_pb_old_content": "The Social Good Accelerator<\/a> had the pleasure of interviewing Matt Stokes, a senior researcher in Collaborative<\/strong>\u00a0Economy at Innovation Foundation Nesta and lead of the Horizon 2020-funded DSI4EU<\/a> project, on his opinions on #SocialGoodTech. In addition, Matt has become a collaborator on our European Study<\/a> as a part of the expert committee as well as an interviewee, with the first results to be presented in November 2018.<\/strong> Can you present DSI4EU and Nesta?<\/em><\/span> Nesta<\/a> is a global innovation foundation with a mission to back new ideas to tackle the big challenges of our time. Using our knowledge, networks, funding and skills, we work hard for new opportunities and challenges, to spark creative answers, to shape ideas into practical solutions and to shift systems in a new direction. We have been working in the field of digital social innovation<\/a> (DSI) since 2013, exploring and supporting the people, projects and organisations across Europe who are using open and collaborative technologies to tackle social challenges. We\u2019ve published landmark reports including Growing a digital social innovation ecosystem for Europe<\/a><\/em> and What next for digital social innovation<\/a><\/em>?, and developed an online hub for the community at digitalsocial.eu<\/a>, where people can find information, stories, case studies, funding opportunities, events and Europe\u2019s largest database of DSI organisations<\/a> and projects<\/a>. This program is supported by the European Commission and works within a network of actors. Can you explain the partnerships?<\/em><\/span> One of Nesta\u2019s core values is to never work alone, and since entering the field of DSI we\u2019ve collaborated with several organisations. Currently, we\u2019re working with six organisations - Waag<\/a> (Netherlands), WeMake<\/a> (Italy), betterplace lab<\/a> (Germany), Barcelona Activa<\/a> and Fab Lab Barcelona<\/a> (Spain) and the ePa\u0144stwo Foundation<\/a> (Poland). We bring together our complementary skills, networks and knowledge to maximise impact. Since the very beginning, our work in DSI has been made possible thanks to the generous funding of the European Commission<\/a>, specifically the Directorate\u2011General for Communications Networks, Content and Technology (DG-CONNECT<\/a>). The Commission was one of the first big organisations to recognise the potential of technology for tackling social challenges and has funded over 50 projects within Horizon 2020\u2019s CAPS<\/a> (Collective Awareness Platforms for Sustainability) programme. We believe that one of our key roles is to help shape a shared agenda for DSI in Europe, to influence policy and to build new connections to speed up growth and maximise impact. What have been the key achievements and results of DSI4EU? What are the prospects for the coming months?<\/em><\/span> The heart of the project is the digitalsocial.eu<\/a> website, which is a valuable resource for all types of stakeholders. At the moment, we\u2019re investing heavily in further development to make it even more useful, including growing the library of case studies<\/a>. In our current project, we\u2019re really excited to be increasing our policy engagement, through the development of a DSI Index<\/a> which will measure how different countries and cities are supporting DSI and create a bank of ideas for policymakers. We\u2019re also developing six \u201cDSI clusters<\/a>\u201d, programmes of activity focused on specific social areas, which are helping practitioners on the ground maximise their impact. On the research side, we\u2019re kicking off some exciting future-focused work, looking at how emerging tech trends will affect the development of DSI and building positive future scenarios for how technology can help us to address social challenges a decade down the line.

\u201cA lot of the social sector, including charities in\u00a0<\/strong>particular, lack digital skills and don\u2019t know how to make the most of the opportunities. At the same time, huge amounts of money have gone into research and innovation for digital products, but a tiny fraction has been devoted to socially-oriented digital innovation.\u201d<\/strong><\/h2><\/blockquote>In relation to your work, why is the pledge of the Social Good Accelerator for \"More tech in social good, more social good in tech\" important in Europe? Why is this commitment relevant, in your opinion?<\/em><\/span> This pledge is important because it goes to the heart of what DSI aims to achieve. Over the past few years, social innovation has attracted more and more attention, but relatively little has been devoted to how technology can be used as a tool. A lot of actors in the social sector, including charities, lack digital skills and are struggling to make the most of the opportunities. At the same time, huge amounts of money have gone into research and innovation for digital technologies, but a tiny fraction has been devoted to socially-oriented digital innovation. Alongside this, over the past years pressing issues have come to the forefront of the very foundations of technology: concentration of power and money in the hands of a small number of tech giants, threats to net neutrality (particularly in the US), censorship, surveillance, big data and artificial intelligence, cybersecurity and the nebulous spectre of \u201cfake news.\u201d We think DSI also has a role in influencing the development of technology in a more responsible, ethical and inclusive direction. What could we do together to accelerate digital social innovation?<\/em><\/span> There are loads of opportunities for collaboration, from events and research contributions to joint efforts in influencing policy and network-building. 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